Residence, Unlimited Residence Right in Germany and German Citizenship..!!

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    These topics are written under different topic titles, disappearing occasionally, I will try to summarize and arrange them under this title, if they have friends who are interested, they will benefit.

    Visum – Visa: It is the right given by the consulates for a maximum of 3 months.

    Aufenthaltserlaubnis – Residence Right: It is the temporary residence right granted by the Foreigners Office in Germany.

    Unbefristet, Niderlassungserlaubnis – Unlimited Session: formerly Unbefristet, now known as Niderlassungserlaubnis, unlimited residence rights

    For those who already have after Deutsche Staatsangehörigkeit, German Citizenship

    Now, you have received your visa through family reunification and you have come to Germany. The first thing you should do is to go to the foreigners office as soon as possible, even if you have time, and apply for Residence – Aufenthaltserlaubnis.

    ..If your spouse is a German citizen, you will first get a residence permit for 1 or 2 years, and then again for 1 or 2 years if you extend it. When you complete 3 years in total, you have the right to apply for Unlimited Visa – Niederlassungserlaubnis. This is determined by the 28nd paragraph of the 2th article of the Residence Law. I am adding the link below, those who want can enter and read the German version from there..

    link: https://www.juraforum.de/gesetze/aufenthg/28-familiennachzug-zu-deutschen

    ..if your spouse is a Turkish citizen, you will receive a residence right for 1 or 2 years, with the duration varying depending on the city, until you complete these 5 years. At the end of the 5th year, you can apply for an Unlimited Visa - Niederlassungserlaubnis, if you also meet the other conditions, for example 60 months. Like having made payments to the retirement fund, that is, being employed. These conditions are determined by the 9 Parties listed under the 2nd paragraph of Article 9 of the Session Law. You can read the other conditions from the link.

    link: https://www.juraforum.de/gesetze/aufenthg/9-niederlassungserlaubnis

    – Of course, even if your spouse is German or Turkish, one of the basic conditions is that you must attend integration courses and be successful before the unlimited visa –


    Let's go to German Citizenship:

    The right of naturalization is regulated generally by Articles 8, 9 and 10 of the Citizenship Act. Accordingly, Article 8 regulates the general rights, Article 9 regulates the rights of those who are married to the German spouse and Article 10 regulates the rights of the remaining foreigners, that is, those who are not married or who remain in Germany in some way.

    .. According to this, the rights of those who are insulted are 8. and 9. arrangements. these items do not write anything directly related to the senate. but in practice you are married to German couple 5. If you fulfill your German citizenship at the end of the year, you have the right to apply. other conditions, knowing german, doing citizenship test, having basic information about germany, not getting social help and others .. I add the links in this article to Assagida ..

    8. Article Link: https://norm.bverwg.de/jur.php?rustag,8
    9. Article Link: https://norm.bverwg.de/jur.php?rustag,9

    Application related to this time Linkte: https://www.duesseldorf.de/buergerinfo/33/03/31eb02.shtml

    Article 10 regulates the right of acquiring German citizenship for Turkish citizens. Accordingly, one of the conditions is to have stayed in Germany for 8 years and to fulfill the other conditions that are fulfilled by those who are married to the above.

    10. Article Link: https://norm.bverwg.de/jur.php?rustag,10

    besides this is the whole of the Session Legislations Linkte:

    https://www.jusline.de/Aufenthaltsgesetz_%28AufenthG%29_Langversion

    This is also the law of interest to citizenship Linkte:

    https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/rustag/BJNR005830913

    you can find.

    If you have any questions, you can ask them here. I hope it helped the friends who wanted the subject ..

    EL-TURCO
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    eline health

    I can not express the situation on the wrong side .. I gave it on the links of the ages because of that .. ..

    tugce_doerj is
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    very beautiful baybars eline health. do you have the same quilt for each of these states? because I have a citizen who is a citizen in the place where I am and 8 has lived here 5 should have taxed the senate. the woman became a citizen after she made these things. the woman came from vietnam not turk. maybe they could be a different application?

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    I am sure that I have to be the same everywhere I am married to the German citizen 3 I have to be in Germany for the year I need to be married to the German citizen 2 In total I need to be married to the German citizen at the end of the year 5. https://www.duesseldorf.de/buergerinfo/33/03/31eb02.shtml  I am writing the same thing as my own. And the rule of 8 year is valid for those who are native citizens

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    very beautiful baybars eline health. do you have the same quilt for each of these states? because I have a citizen who is a citizen in the place where I am and 8 has lived here 5 should have taxed the senate. the woman became a citizen after she made these things. the woman came from vietnam not turk. maybe they could be a different application?

    Normally in the citizenship law all foreigners have written the same on the horizon .. this 5 year tax payment issue is not already in the citizenship, niederlassungserlaubnis teeiyor .. the rights of the citizens of the escort to 8 and 9. substance is being edited. and this year it does not seem like a profession. 8 year is happening at 10.Madde ..
    – Now, when the year does not pass, how do the citizenship rights of those with German spouses differ? It makes a difference in practice. I gave an example of this from Düsseldorf Municipality. The official page of the municipality mentions 5 years.

    tugce_doerj is
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    it can be different everywhere if you do not give it a year. the woman here told me 8 year. and 5 has taxed the senate.

    I got a 3-year visa for family reunification. These times change elsewhere for the wife of the German citizen. I didn't understand differently everywhere, so it went. There is a state in this state, everyone goes according to their heads. Nobody can give a clear answer to anyone because the law of a state does not keep it in the voracious state. :policy:

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    it can be different everywhere if you do not give it a year. the woman here told me 8 year. and 5 has taxed the senate.

    I got a 3-year visa for family reunification. These times change elsewhere for the wife of the German citizen. I didn't understand differently everywhere, so it went. There is a state in this state, everyone goes according to their heads. Nobody can give a clear answer to anyone because the law of a state does not keep it in the voracious state. :policy:

    there are differences in small things, there are differences in small things, there are differences in the states of the states concerned .. things like session rights and citizenship are related to all the people .. there are no legal differences in such big things .. there is no single difference There is a single citizenship law in the jurisdiction.

    now you have the right to say that there is a precedent in the example .. you are only married to this German gentlemen's right of citizenship 2005 is a new exit .. maybe you mentioned someone who was a German citizen in the previous period, according to the new law you 10. 8 that you wrote in article is not connected to SABA yearly .. this is already 9. 9 writes clearly in the article. Article DIOR 8. and 9. It is said that the person who fulfills the requirements of the Madden has the right to be a citizen of the german .. it is written on the page of the official site of Düsseldor that is written on many pages.

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    I guess that woman was quite old, of course, she got the visa before 2005, I did not ask her. then that's normal. okay:)

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    I guess that woman was quite old, of course, she got the visa before 2005, I did not ask her. then that's normal. okay:)

    see now this is an essay from munich; It is easy to talk about the period while you are writing,

    Die Ermessenseinbürgerung (§§ 8, 9 StAG)
    Die Ermessenseinbürgerung gilt für bestimmte Ausländergruppen wie zB Ehegatten von
    Deutschen, anerkannte Flüchtlinge, ehemalige deutsche Staatsangehörige etc, die unter
    erleichterten Voraussetzungen (= kürzeren Aufenthaltszeiten) eingebürgert werden können.
    Für Ehegatten von Deutschen gilt in der Regel eine Wartezeit von drei, für anerkannte
    Flüchtlinge von sechs Jahren. 
    https://www.auslaenderbeirat-muenchen.de/publi/staatsang.pdf

    Dortmund, Bochum writes the same thing on the page of them.

    tugce_doerj is
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    understood. anyway, we have a few more years to look at those things 50 times more until then: haha:

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    understood. anyway, we have a few more years to look at those things 50 times more until then: haha:

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    Do you have an intention to become a German citizen?

    EL-TURCO
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    I think German citizenship is not as attractive as it used to be.
    -The most important thing to consider is that when a person with a type of employment becomes a German citizen, SSK-Bağkur certificates are lost. Well, people, they called the retirement age in Turkey retirement age in the grave, they had no idea about the people here, not even in the grave, but only when the bone is dry (Anyone who has a little knowledge about the average age of Turkey will agree with me! We cannot live 85-90 like the Germans….
    Did you tell the woman of 65, she glares at her face - our 55-60s waist is dead, I am over, it does not rise deeply (generalization)
    – 2. The right to own property in Turkey 8. If I'm not mistaken, until 5 years ago, foreigners could not acquire property in Turkey, house sales had stopped - maybe a new law has been passed, I don't know much about it.
    -There is also the other side of this world. People want to be buried where they were born (at least me).
    – Even if I had 4 German passports, I would not need a passport that would be obvious from a thousand kilometers away that I am a Turk...
    -The course of the train is not bad at all. If we are lucky, it would not be bad to spend a summer life in the train when the age is 50-60.. Will we come again, let me sell its mother to the world...
    it's my idea.

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    I think German citizenship is not as attractive as it used to be.
    -The most important thing to consider is that when a person with a type of employment becomes a German citizen, SSK-Bağkur certificates are lost. Well, people, they called the retirement age in Turkey retirement age in the grave, they had no idea about the people here, not even in the grave, but only when the bone is dry (Anyone who has a little knowledge about the average age of Turkey will agree with me! We cannot live 85-90 like the Germans….
    Did you tell the woman of 65, she glares at her face - our 55-60s waist is dead, I am over, it does not rise deeply (generalization)
    – 2. The right to own property in Turkey 8. If I'm not mistaken, until 5 years ago, foreigners could not acquire property in Turkey, house sales had stopped - maybe a new law has been passed, I don't know much about it.
    -There is also the other side of this world. People want to be buried where they were born (at least me).
    – Even if I had 4 German passports, I would not need a passport that would be obvious from a thousand kilometers away that I am a Turk...
    -The course of the train is not bad at all. If we are lucky, it would not be bad to spend a summer life in the train when the age is 50-60.. Will we come again, let me sell its mother to the world...
    it's my idea.

    – Is the expiration of these SSK periods certain? For example, a relative of mine, a lawyer, told me that you can count the time you worked in Germany in Turkey. Is it certain that they killed the periods accordingly?
    - These foreigners did not have the right to own property in Turkey until recently, as you said, but within the framework of EU harmonization laws, they changed this. They made it possible for them to own property through a company. Now they were going to change that too. I don't know what they did, but they can also acquire property without directly intermediating a company. Of course, they would recognize the right. In the world, the law changes once a week in Turkey..

    – As you mentioned, there is the other side of this world, but we also have to think about it from this point of view, there are many Companions and Akinci graves in the world that are not buried in their own homeland.. I even read once that there are raider graves in the heart of Europe and even in the middle of Germany.. Of course, we are neither Companions nor Akinci. :)

    . Apart from the western conditions you mentioned, I also think about it .. If the Turks living in Germany will stay in Germany for a long time, they all have to be German citizenship .. In line with its convenience or difficulties .. To create a lobby For the voting potential .. Of course, we gather under one roof in Germany. How real it would be for us to carry out our activities, but at least 500.000 Armenians in france should have the German parliament to have over 2 million Turks living in Germany do what they can do for Sarkozy.

    Of course, we are right and left among us. Alawi Sunni, not religious. communion or not .. it besides to be in our bölündügü a lot of our own jealousy on the mass movement ic, one of the biggest problems that need asmamiz .. like at least here so that you think Turkey's and the nation's interests in lobbying bi search must be inside, though. if a research is done today. Will Turkey get into the european union .. you can not get into the direction of the cog of Turkey in Europe will use the votes I guess ..

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    abu bass to until the end when it comes to haklisin SSK time came a new assembly, but I know exactly the contents of mourning when and I do not think its already there after my aged 23 in Turkey committed no insurance one day even the payment of contributions did so university life that is on the insured business is not ever a time oldukd graduate from school already direct germany asking presentation localities have now why I My gecmeyim.avantaj the citizenship of getting more I know and voting rights as at confess the right to avoid being treated like a stranger in a so yasya the very oluyor.s bulgaria nervous too turk citizen held on the doors of people then almanvatadnaslig that ultimately this cruelty yuzunden.türkiye goods as for the right to acquire already all of us in advance of Turkish citizenship bulunduğu to be applied on the blue card because we know a system we all anymore least makes what is yaradig on how kullanilams gerektiğni and blue kartd also are exiting the new laws all they have in Turkey in the entry into force of the voting hairicoperations gerceklestirebilcek goods purchase land receiving such applications may already blue cards yapiliyor..b law expanded by olcak more active and sunulcak as an alternative to Turkish-born German citizen me your kanatind am every turk citizen getting citizenship to gecmeli..v 60 to 70 years we have turkey Backson even already cog of incoming dusnuy caused the accident is not living turkiyede turkiyede have received few thousand turkish citizens living in alanyadan I think they take advantage citizenship to us from all directions ..

    – Is the expiration of these SSK periods certain? For example, a relative of mine, a lawyer, told me that you can count the time you worked in Germany in Turkey. Is it certain that they killed the periods based on this?
    - These foreigners did not have the right to own property in Turkey until recently, as you said, but within the framework of EU harmonization laws, they changed this.. They made it possible for them to own property through a company. Now they were going to change that too. I don't know what they did, but they can also acquire property without directly intermediating a company. Of course, they would recognize the right. In the world, the law changes once a week in Turkey..

    – As you mentioned, there is the other side of this world, but we also have to think about it from this point of view, there are many Companions and Akinci graves in the world that are not buried in their own homeland.. I even read that there are raider graves in the heart of Europe, even in the middle of Germany.. Of course, we are neither Companions nor Akinci. :)

    . Apart from the western conditions you have mentioned, I also think about it. If the Turks living in Germany will stay in Germany for a long time, they all have to be German citizenship .. Due to its convenience or difficulties .. To create a lobby For the potential to vote .. Of course, our roof It would be realistic for us to gather and carry out lobbying activities in Germany, but at least 500.000 Armenians in France should have the German parliament have over 2 million Turks living in Germany do what they can do for sarkozy .. This is the first way to be Voting Potential. ..

    Of course, we are right and left among us. Alawi Sunni, not religious. communion or not .. it besides to be in our bölündügü a lot of our own jealousy on the mass movement ic, one of the biggest problems that need asmamiz .. like at least here so that you think Turkey's and the nation's interests in lobbying bi search must be inside, though. if a research is done today. Will Turkey get into the european union .. you can not get into the direction of the cog of Turkey in Europe will use the votes I guess ..

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    tell me to answer

    – I have nearly 3500 days of insurance in TR and plus military service! These disappear when I become a German citizen. But my work in Germany is added when I want to retire from TR. The retirement age is very suitable in TR. As I said, the average life expectancy in Germany is 77% for men, 82% for women, and 60% for women in TR. It hovers around 65-80%. Well, since I am a Turkoglu Turk and due to hereditary reasons, I do not believe that I will see 90-XNUMX%...
    -When the dual citizenship law becomes unlimited for us Turks (currently 18-23) as it is applied to citizens of other EU countries, then I will become a citizen. If necessary, I will wait 10 hours at the Bulgarian border. I will not pass because of my Turkishness... There is no limit to citizenship. 10 years cannot be measured with 15 years. That's it anyway. It is not. Oddly enough, the politician whose name is Mcallister is interested in this issue, although he is a dual citizen, he has a negative view on the issue of dual citizenship, but he eats the cream of it...
    –As you said, I am neither a companion nor a raider. If possible, my grave should be in Turkey (I say this even though my wife is German!!!)
    -The best thing we do is that we can't finish anything the same way we started! We have many projects but no ending. That's why the concept of lobbying is very long. Here you go, the Turkish Party was founded in Bremen last year, it moved to the CDU last month, its chairman and vice president... Which politics are we talking about...
    -No offense to anyone, but as long as these Kurdish citizens have problems among us, our fight will not end (unfortunately, there are those who cannot stomach living under the same flag... Anyway, this is another discussion topic, please do not comment on this issue, otherwise the issue will get confused.
    -Ufuk, I myself lived in Alanya for 15-16 years. My right-hand neighbor in the apartment building was German, for example. That's why I say that because when I turn 50, I will run away too :-) Of course, first I have to pay off the debt of the house I bought. :-)

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